Last night we saw that Wonkette couldn't wait for the funeral to start bashing Gerald Ford.
Here comes Bob Woodward, who can't wait until Ford is cold to start using him to bash Bush. Very nice. But irrelevant. He had his own tough decisions to make in his time. Bush's own father isn't crazy about the Iraq War, either. Neither is Jimmy Carter, who fumbled the Great Jihadi Wars kickoff 25 years ago, or Bill Clinton, who wanted to go after Saddam in the worst way but couldn't get it up for more than a few missiles.
Disappointing that Ford agreed to attack a sitting president's decisions on condition they not be aired until he is dead, despite the distinct possibility that would be within the sitting president's term. Disappointing that his arguments are so simplistic, at least in this presentation, and fail to address the real threat to U.S. national interest that Saddam presented and the corruption and collapse of 12 years of sanctions that was underway at the time of the invasion. Disgusting that Woodward lacks the decency to sit on this at least until after the funeral.
Curt at Flopping Aces notes that Cindy Sheehan is losing it ... I mean, more of it: Iraq is Gerald Ford's fault.
To get that bad taste out of your mouth, here's Don Surber on Ford's Profile in Courage Award for pardoning Nixon, when he had the guts to spare the nation further trauma.
Here's Bush on Ford.
UPDATE: Another quarter heard from re Ford's view on Iraq. Thomas DeFrank, NY Daily News Washington Bureau Chief:
Ford was a few weeks shy of his 93rd birthday as we chatted for about 45 minutes. He'd been visited by President Bush three weeks earlier and said he'd told Bush he supported the war in Iraq but that the 43rd President had erred by staking the invasion on weapons of mass destruction.
"Saddam Hussein was an evil person and there was justification to get rid of him," he observed, "but we shouldn't have put the basis on weapons of mass destruction. That was a bad mistake. Where does [Bush] get his advice?"
Ford was predictably defensive about Vice President Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, his two White House chiefs of staff. Asked why Cheney had tanked in public opinion polls, he smiled. "Dick's a classy guy, but he's not an electrified orator."
But he didn't like Bush's domestic surveillance program. "It may be a necessary evil," he conceded. "I don't think it's a terrible transgression, but I would never do it. I was dumbfounded when I heard they were doing it."
Apparently Ford's message was somewhat more nuanced than Woodward presented. I still think former presidents should be seen and not heard, however. Unless they plan on camping out with Cindy in the ditch. (h/t ed driscoll)
Wednesday, December 27, 2006
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Goodness mentioning that Ford got the Profiles in Courage Award, isn't that blasphemous around here? The original press release from Ted Kennedy is here:
http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=5006
Oh and Jules get over Woodward "using" Ford to attack Bush - Bush deserves what he gets. He's no saint and there's no law that says thou shall not bash a sitting president who lies us into an ill gotten war.
Why is it that people think Watergate was such a big deal?
LBJ was wiretapping his opponents hotels a decade prior. Yawn.
Watergate was a two-bit break in no worse than Schumer's black bag crew doing identity thefts against Michael Steele.
Just like Clinton's Oval Office blow jobs were no big deal...right? right?
John Howard and the Australian government were the biggest violators of the oil-for-food program.
What were these down under crooks doing with their loot that was so dangerous?
I would like to see a full and uncensored transcript of these "interviews."
Ford cannot comment on Woodwards claims, so what evidence is there that he said this and in what context?
While it is very possible Ford did disagree with the War in Iraq, he also in the article says his opinion is based upon "publicly known facts" at the time. Any sitting President is privy to a great deal more "facts" than is ever made public.
He also claims Ford said, ". I would have maximized our effort through sanctions, through restrictions, whatever, to find another answer."
12 years and 17 UN resolutions accomplished little, other than filling the pockets of corrupt UN officials in the "Oil for Food" scandal.
As somebody who was not only alive, but of voting age at the time, I will say that Watergate was a big deal. The same today probably wouldn't even make the paper, but 1972 was a far less jaded world, where the office of the Presidency had dignity. Nixon destroyed the faith and trust in the office.
Nixon is no hero of mine.
Purple Avenger said...
Why is it that people think Watergate was such a big deal?
LBJ was wiretapping his opponents hotels a decade prior. Yawn.
Watergate was a two-bit break in no worse than Schumer's black bag crew doing identity thefts against Michael Steele.
Just like Clinton's Oval Office blow jobs were no big deal...right? right?
Dec 28, 2006 2:20:00 AM
"Watergate was a two-bit break in no worse than Schumer's black bag crew doing identity thefts against Michael Steele."
I love it when you people channel Tricky Dick from the grave. It's so........how should I say........wingnutty!!
So the opinion of an ex-President on the Iraq war is "irrelevant"? Irrelevant because he's dead? Because we invaded anyway? Or because you disagree with him?
Actually, it's disappointing that he preferred not to have his comments aired until after his death. God forbid they should be aired at a time when they could be of some use. Why exactly should he wait until after Bush is out of power? Do the dead have some loyalty to their party that trumps their loyalty to America? (Without question the living apparently do...at least the living of the Republican party.)
Lew-
Even in the midst of this ruinous war, people such as you can say with a straight face "at least it's not those ineffective sanctions!" It is very, very difficult to take people like yourself seriously.
My local bank got robbed yesterday and it didn't even make the papers or TV news.
You want me to believe some cheesy burglary rates?
The only reason Nixon got popped is because he was an R and the media are D's. Otherwise LBJ would have been put in the exact same situation. That he wasn't speaks volumes.
Excerpted and linked.
Personally, I'm getting a little tired of Woodward and his seances.
Cretinden's just being peevish because Woodward's a real journalist and is published in real newspapers.
Alexander, since you won't take us serious about the ineffectiveness of the sanctions and restrictions, please show me where they have worked. They didn't even work with Qaddafi. He didn't turn over a new leaf until he saw the might of our Military fighting nearby in Iraq.
In fact, point me to the wars prevented by UN sanctions and dialogue.
If *you* expect to be taken seriously, just show where they have worked.
Woodward's a real journalist
Used to be a real journalist. Now he's just a carnival barker hawking Whack-A-Mole and rubber snakes.
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